Matematiske bevis ang subjektive erfaringer

David Storoy (david.storoy@oslo.mail.telia.com)
Fri, 19 Dec 97 21:05:26 PST

>Det finnes kun subjektive erfaringer og oppfatninger. Noen mer
>subjektive
>enn andre!

Det var overraskende å høre fra en matematiker. Alle subjektive
erfaringer er like viktige og riktige. Sammen skaper vi et helhetlig
bilde - det som skjer på virkelighetsplanet!Her på Jorden!

>Den såkalte nøytrale og eksakte vitenskapen eksisterer ikke!

Når jeg mener objektivitet så er det å "vise" andre hva en uttrykker
og mener!Kommunikasjon er viktig.

>Hilsen en matematiker!

Her har jeg en interessant ramse om matematiske bevis som en vis
mann i sjamenens verden sa(på engelsk) - et tankekors spør du meg:

MATHEMATICAL PROOFS:

"Humans have a catchy phrase regarding relationships - which came
first,the chicken or the egg? Well of course it was the kitchen, who
gradually evolved to encase young in a sehll long before it evolved
to become å chicken. First came dropping the young into a water
bed, as fish and frogs do, so the chicken`s precursor came first.
Humans treat mathematics much this way,expecting the world to line
up with their math when the math evolved to describe their world.
Starting with simple counting schemes, mathematical descriptions
became more and more elaborate as they were endlessly adjusted
until they described yet another aspect of nature. When math is used
as a tool, and its origins understood,then when a particular model
placed upon a natural phenomena does not fit there is no conflict.
The mathematical model is understood to be the problem. However,
just as there is confusion about the chicken or the egg, most humans
lose sight of what came first. They insist the math is sacred, and
stubbornly refuse to deal with the discrepancies this approach
produces.

Mathematics,for some, has become a religion.

Mathematics build upon itself, so that concepts put into place are
continued and never discarded. Formulas that reasonably describe a
situation when measurements are crude are never discarded, but are
held up as standards to be disproved and defended.

Creativity in math is nil, so that brilliant insights such as Einstein`s are
held to ridicule rather than discussed. Thus it is that mathematics are
burdened with the absurd as well as the insightful, and thus regularly
miss the mark. The Shamans are frequently asked what is wrong with
human math, or how to do it right. Frankly, the right math will not be
discussed, as this might put mankind on paths they are not yet to
trod. As to what is wrong, we would suggest a simple exercise. Face
problems with a completely fresh mind, and ploy the math you think
would solve that. Compare what you have placed on paper with the
traditional math. What differs? What about the traditional math forced
into the tradition? We predict you will find that a long history of being
passed forward, regardless of worth, has placed certain formulas into
mankind`s mathematical view of world. Would you allow yourself tho
be treated as the doctor`s of yore treated patients, by bleeding and
starving or opening the head? Are women in labor to die screaming
rather than undergo cesarean? Are doctor`s not to wash their hands
because infection spontaneously generates and germs do not exist?

Mathematical proofs are not "proof". Mathematical proofs only
demonstrate that the numbers resulting can be lined up with each
other. In fact, this can be assured if one just ensures that the
component pieces, in the formulas, are all from the same grab bag. In
other words, if on is building aa toy city with lego building blocks, one
can get everything to line up if all the lego blocks are of a similar size
or miltiples of this size. To make this all line up, just throw out
anything that doesn`t fit. This is, in fact, what humans do with their
mathematical "proofs". When something doesn`t fit, they substitute
another lego piece, one from the proper grab bag, and then get
smug. They haven`t proved anyting. They`ve only gotten their math
to line up, and they`re not so good at that either.
Contradicitions are running side by side at the major universities, with
the students asked not to question so the professors can continue to
be smug. Just pay your tuition and shut up!"

David: Sterke ord, men poenget er om matematiske bevis har en
verdi. Slik som den blir praktisert - særlig i vestlig verden. Tankekors!

mvh
David